VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

My frame arrived yesterday. Here's a pic of the build in progress. The paint job is pretty good with some minor imperfections but for 50€ can't really complain. The white headtube cover doesn't sit perfectly there's a little gap on the right side and none on the left gotta check that out. But i will redo the cockpit installation anyway when i figured out my fit. The huge spacer tower is just there to give me room to figure out my fit. I will definitely remove some spacers and recut the fork.
There is some paint in the bottom bracket area and some paint on the brake caliper mounting area. Hopefully the brakes won't be too hard to align. I will also postpone brake installation until i have the perfect cockpit height figured out, so i don't cut the hoses to the wrong length. Won't need brakes on the trainer anyway. Currently i'm waiting for a second bottom bracket tool. I got one of those screw together bottom brackets and i can't install it with only grabbing it on one side (who would have thought...).

The build will be:

Velobuild VB-R-268 frame
Elitewheels ENT 2.0 38mm
105 Di2
Magene PES P505

Can't wait to install the bottom bracket and cranks to take it for a first spin on the trainer.

Oh and for those who are interested in ordering and wondering how long it would take:

Ordered on october 30th
Shipped on november 14th
Delivered on november 26th (to germany using the xdb tax free shipping option)

[volan]

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Ordered on october 30th
Shipped on november 14th
Delivered on november 26th (to germany using the xdb tax free shipping option)

My God why did I order icebreak color option... I believe it was the cause for the delay of mine order. Ordered on Oct 26th, shipped only last week, and today should be on it's way to Croatia.

Regarding your bb tool issue, yea I was thinking about it so I ordered another tool from ali on time ... But I think I will drop inside the shimano pressfit BB that came with the groupset. I kinda don't like having aluminium on carbon in pressfit option. Still not sure.

Anyways, build is looking really good. Keep us updated!

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

I didn't want to buy a pressfit tool and thought this might be a good alternative. As far as i see it there's no aluminium touching the carbon with this setup.

I will post the full build once it's all setup. This is my first bike build ever but so far it's going quite smooth.

Btw. does anybody have a good alternative to the seatpost rubber cover that came with the frame. I really don't like how it overlaps the back of the frame.

[hazzer19]

My God why did I order icebreak color option...

may be worth it in the end, the ice break effect looks really good in person!

[volan]

I didn't want to buy a pressfit tool and thought this might be a good alternative. As far as i see it there's no aluminium touching the carbon with this setup.

I will post the full build once it's all setup. This is my first bike build ever but so far it's going quite smooth.

Btw. does anybody have a good alternative to the seatpost rubber cover that came with the frame. I really don't like how it overlaps the back of the frame.

Yea someone in here posted a pic with, I believe, SL7 cover from ali. But having seen the VB's cover, I wonder how come noone tried to cut that rear part?

With regards to aluminum - carbon. I thought your bb is the aluminum one, or am I wrong?

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

Yea someone in here posted a pic with, I believe, SL7 cover from ali. But having seen the VB's cover, I wonder how come noone tried to cut that rear part?

With regards to aluminum - carbon. I thought your bb is the aluminum one, or am I wrong?

Cutting it would be my first step but since these things are probably pretty cheap i will just go for an alternative if i fuck it up.

I have the bottom bracket from the attached pic and there are two rubber o-rings on the area that touches the frame to protect it.

[volan]

Oh we have the same bb. I also ordered ztto like that. But since my last ztto bb (bsa) on my mtb didn't last that long really, I'm inclined to using good ol' shimano plastic one. I really am not sure yet. Will decide on the spot I think.

Tell me, how do you find the bb shell quality, tolerances etc...? I haven't worked with pressfit shells, only bsa. Seems pf bb's have higher tendency for creak development. Also, did you use any grease?

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

Oh we have the same bb. I also ordered ztto like that. But since my last ztto bb (bsa) on my mtb didn't last that long really, I'm inclined to using good ol' shimano plastic one. I really am not sure yet. Will decide on the spot I think.

Tell me, how do you find the bb shell quality, tolerances etc...? I haven't worked with pressfit shells, only bsa. Seems pf bb's have higher tendency for creak development. Also, did you use any grease?

Since this is my first bike build i can't really tell you much about the bottom bracket as i lack experience to compare it. I did some research about grease and there seem to be multiple opinions. Some people (for example hambini) recommend using some loctite (not the one used for screws) others use normal grease. I'll be using this silicone stuff recommended by some people on bikewrench reddit. Will see how the bb will hold up and if it will develop any creaks.

[hazzer19]

Cutting it would be my first step but since these things are probably pretty cheap i will just go for an alternative if i fuck it up.

I have the bottom bracket from the attached pic and there are two rubber o-rings on the area that touches the frame to protect it.

I've been using the same BB from ZTTO as well and really like the screw in aspect. They are fairly delicate, in that if you don't use the correct tool and instead use a clamp wrench for example like I did once because I didn't have two BB wrenches, one for each side, you can crush it pretty easily and the bearings won't turn anymore.


Been using regular grease myself when installing and seems fine.

[volan]

I've been using the same BB from ZTTO as well and really like the screw in aspect. They are fairly delicate, in that if you don't use the correct tool and instead use a clamp wrench for example like I did once because I didn't have two BB wrenches, one for each side, you can crush it pretty easily and the bearings won't turn anymore.


Been using regular grease myself when installing and seems fine.

Thanks for the input! I will take it into consideration when I go for the bb install. How do you find the bearing durabillity? Or simply, how long is your installed, and how many km's is on it?

I'm kind of sucker for shimano I admit, but it's because, really, all of their stuff I found durable AF. I mean, their cheapest bb i have now on my indoor trainer bike, is like, 4 years old, and still spins without noise and any noticable friction. My first spd pedals are, well, unbreakable. So many rock hits and crashes.. That damn thing doesn't give 2 f?cks about it. So that's the only reason I'm inclined on pressing the plastic Shimano bb into this build.

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

I would highly recommend to get some sort of "cup style" (first attachment) bottom bracket tool to install the screw in bottom bracket. I got myself two of these cheap ones (second attachment) and it's really hard to get a good grip on the thin area of the bottom bracket. I think these tools are better suited for bsa bottom brackets with a much larger area to grip.

@volan: If you already have the tool and the bottom bracket i think there's nothing wrong with the shimano bb. The sole reason for me to go with the screw together was the lack of a pressfit tool.

[volan]

I would highly recommend to get some sort of "cup style" (first attachment) bottom bracket tool to install the screw in bottom bracket. I got myself two of these cheap ones (second attachment) and it's really hard to get a good grip on the thin area of the bottom bracket. I think these tools are better suited for bsa bottom brackets with a much larger area to grip.

@volan: If you already have the tool and the bottom bracket i think there's nothing wrong with the shimano bb. The sole reason for me to go with the screw together was the lack of a pressfit tool.

I have two simple tools like the second photo you showed. And I gues it will be more simple to use pressfit tool with shimano. I got one pretty cheap on aliex, and it looks just fine.

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

I would go for the pressfit in that case

[hazzer19]

New Trace Velo bike build video says he's been using his ZTTO for 2 years without issue https://youtu.be/6I3iTMjmQKI?t=629


I personally like the screw in/out aspect about it the most. Agree that a cup style tool would be favourable but the cheaper thiner tool works as well

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

Here's another build update from me. First about the bottom bracket: I wrote earlier that i would recommend a cup style tool as i couldn't get it in with these cheap tools. Seems like it was my fault. I unscrewed the bb again and redid it and it worked flawless. Seems like i cross threaded the bb in the first try and therefore couldn't get it to work. On my second try it worked even with the cheap tools. Everything else went really flawless so far. Given that this is my first build i expected tons of problems i would have to figure out but so far there are none. I installed the di2 and the cranks. I also cut down the steerer tube a little further and removed some spacers. I already did a test ride on the trainer and everything worked like it should. Adjusting the shifting was very easy. The only steps missing now are cutting the brake hoses to length and installing them and aligning the brake calipers. Then i just gotta finish it off by applying bartape and i'm done. Wouldn't have expected that to be honest. Just gotta get some road bike shoes so my gravel bike can have its pedals back.