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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: zealot128 on April 24, 2026, 06:42:07 AM
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Some of you saw it already in my video of the LightCarbon factory tour/interview, and i got some questions regarding it. So, I just got the recent info on the Gravel Racing Frame as it is finalized and testing now.
I am totally not in the target audience for "Racing Gravel", but for sure there are some of you guys will probably interested in it :)
Here some photos:
(https://mybike.parts/i/lcr-072-frame-medium.webp)
(https://mybike.parts/i/lightcarbon-lcg072-01-marketing-medium.webp)
And geometry chart
(https://mybike.parts/i/lcg-072-geometry-large.webp)
Not a geometry nerd, but it seems to me a bit upright with S:R ratios of 1:48-1:50 - interested about your opinions.
Clearance should be 50C (Geometry chart also states 50C standover-height). I will update this thread, if I got more info. Frame will be shown at Shanghai Cycle and ofc Eurobike end of june.
From the other thread we already now LC is quite busy at the moment with current production, what I got was, that production will take 4-6 months. My interpretation: some sizes will be earlier, some later, expect later - YMMV
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Ok! size M-540 looks perfect for me. This MAY be the frame i have been waiting for! Looks like kind of perfect geometry.. possibly a little more fork rake would suite me better, but otherwise great! Even 420mm chainstays! 8)
If it made a custom frame for myself i would kinda look like the medium here.... change seat tube angle to 74.5deg, increase the horizontal top tube length by 16mm and change the rake +3mm..
But for a factory frame, this is as close as it gets so far :-)
The only question: Is it possible to get 2.1" Thunder burts in there, with wider rims (~54mm WAM)?
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Yeah... From a geotechnical standpoint, that one seems pretty interesting to me too—but you probably won't be able to order it for another year, once the kinks have been worked out, unless you want to be a test driver :D
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So stoked !! Thanks for sharing
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Yeah... From a geotechnical standpoint, that one seems pretty interesting to me too—but you probably won't be able to order it for another year, once the kinks have been worked out, unless you want to be a test driver :D
I could actually even go for the Large size, and ride with slammed stem, but i guess it would give less comfort, since less seatpost would be exposed - and also gives taller standover height. My bike today does have 480mm seatstay, so 500mm is already taller there.
I would also actually perfer a regular 27.2mm seatpost, because they usually give better comfort - and it's easier to find alternatives if one would like to replace it with damping post like Ergon CF Allroad Pro.
Of course it is a aero frame, but i don't think seatpost would matter that much. its always compromises anyway.
At the same time, really glad that there finally is something on the way that would fit my needs!
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I don't really get the steep seat tube angle combined with short reach if it's a aero racing frame. 10mm more reach would seem fitting. But nice that they increased the bb drop.
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I love their concept, but don't understand why they choose for an 'outdated' geometry with such a short reach. All good to have an aero frame, but if you can't position the rider in an optimal aero position, you don't gain much. The short top tube and hence reach combined with the steep headtube angle makes me worried about toe overlap when using bigger tires. Let's hope they (re)do their homework well.
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I don't really get the steep seat tube angle and short reach if it's a aero racing frame. 10mm more reach would seem fitting. But nice that they increased the bb drop.
I get that you dont like the short reach, i would also want it a bit longer... buuuut i dont get why you would not like steeper seat tube angle? Usually for racing you ideally sit more forward above the crank for maximum power, and it also open up hips more in aero position. Especially with short chainstay you compensate weight more forward.
An easy fix is also setback seatposts, which probably will also be available.
When i did a bike fit a few weeks ago, i had to slam my saddle all the way forward with zero-setback post, and i still miss about 1cm to have it perfect.
This is with 73.5deg seat tube and 'Comfort position'. Of course saddles have different rail positions so another with rails a bit towards the rear one may be better.
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I get that you dont like the short reach, i would also want it a bit longer... buuuut i dont get why you would not like steeper seat tube angle? Usually for racing you ideally sit more forward above the crank for maximum power, and it also open up hips more in aero position. Especially with short chainstay you compensate weight more forward.
An easy fix is also setback seatposts, which probably will also be available.
When i did a bike fit a few weeks ago, i had to slam my saddle all the way forward with zero-setback post, and i still miss about 1cm to have it perfect.
This is with 73.5deg seat tube and 'Comfort position'. Of course saddles have different rail positions so another with rails a bit towards the rear one may be better.
I do like steep seat tube angle. I meant it is usually combined with longer reach, that's why I said it's a weird combination.
I have the same problem. If a seat tube is too slack I have to slam it forward and still might end up having too much setback. On my Yoeleo Altera I run a 5mm setback post flipped around for -5mm setback.
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I get that you dont like the short reach, i would also want it a bit longer... buuuut i dont get why you would not like steeper seat tube angle? Usually for racing you ideally sit more forward above the crank for maximum power, and it also open up hips more in aero position. Especially with short chainstay you compensate weight more forward.
An easy fix is also setback seatposts, which probably will also be available.
When i did a bike fit a few weeks ago, i had to slam my saddle all the way forward with zero-setback post, and i still miss about 1cm to have it perfect.
This is with 73.5deg seat tube and 'Comfort position'. Of course saddles have different rail positions so another with rails a bit towards the rear one may be better.
Because if you have more frame reach you don't have to use a long stem on frame with 71.5 HTA which negatively affects handling making it too slow
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Because if you have more frame reach you don't have to use a long stem on frame with 71.5 HTA which negatively affects handling making it too slow
I literally said "I get that you dont like the short reach, i would also want it a bit longer" so, we are on the same page there 😅
I do like steep seat tubes though. 74.5deg ideally for me. And yes, both reach and seat tube angle affects top tube horizontal length... But the reason to have steeper seat tube is rather to get correct placement over pedals then to make top tube shorter. In this case toptube should have been 10mm longer while keeping ST-angle 😊
I also think HT-angle and fork rake is better to change for reactiveness of the bike. As long as stem is not extremely long, its ok.
I would probably be fine with 80-90mm stem, on this frame.
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I literally said "I get that you dont like the short reach, i would also want it a bit longer" so, we are on the same page there 😅
I do like steep seat tubes though. 74.5deg ideally for me. And yes, both reach and seat tube angle affects top tube horizontal length... But the reason to have steeper seat tube is rather to get correct placement over pedals then to make top tube shorter. In this case toptube should have been 10mm longer while keeping ST-angle 😊
I also think HT-angle and fork rake is better to change for reactiveness of the bike. As long as stem is not extremely long, its ok.
I would probably be fine with 80-90mm stem, on this frame.
I'm 187cm but would need to use size 56 due to stack. With such a short reach I would need to pair it with 120 stem
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I would need a 120 stem on a large. Not what I want on a gravel bike.
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Here also 120mm or 130 stem for a xl frame ::)
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I would need a 120 stem on a large. Not what I want on a gravel bike.
I’m currently running a 130mm and I can confirm, not the best on gravel but it’s doable.
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I've been looking forward to this one since I saw some 3d renders floating around a few months back but these sizes are tiny. I would probably need a frame 2 sizes larger than an XL and I'm not even that tall
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I've been looking forward to this one since I saw some 3d renders floating around a few months back but these sizes are tiny. I would probably need a frame 2 sizes larger than an XL and I'm not even that tall
Yeah the XL/58 is too small for me too. It has 56.6cm top tube and 53.6cm seat tube. It's not really a 58 it's a small 56. But I have a feeling the will make a XXL frame later.
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I’m currently running a 130mm and I can confirm, not the best on gravel but it’s doable.
Why would a longer stem be bad for gravel? In my mind having a bigger lever is better, like mtbs with wide handlebars.
This bike is looking fantastic, but I still agree that +10mm of front center and reach would make it perfect. 74.5°STA and 79mm bb drop for xl also and I would buy it on spot. A Perfect bike.
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Because the slacker headtube angle and more trail in gravel bikes already slows the steering / makes it more stable. If you combine that with long stem it might start to feel lazy / unresponsive.
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How is the seat tube angle meassured on this bike? If 74 degrees are a strait line from BB to top of seat tube, than the actual STA might be steeper?
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How is the seat tube angle meassured on this bike? If 74 degrees are a strait line from BB to top of seat tube, than the actual STA might be steeper?
Usually in designs like this it is measured from bottom bracket and to a point horizontally from top of head tube. Usually they call it 'effective seat tube angle', while the real angle is steeper in this design.
John Karrasch covers it here : https://www.johnkarrasch.com/articles/2x1m1m58qd93amm34mskbj32vo63md
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Because the slacker headtube angle and more trail in gravel bikes already slows the steering / makes it more stable. If you combine that with long stem it might start to feel lazy / unresponsive.
It's not only that. Longer stem puts your hands further over the front axle, so it's easier to endo the bike in rocky/rough/steep terrain. And when you are pulling on the bars to lift the front end over rocks/logs, the long stem pushes the bars further to one side when there's a slight asymmetry to the handlebar pull. Which really amplifies the amount the wheel turns off center. First time I did that on my 130mm stem gravel bike, I almost turned the wheel to 90 degrees while it was in the air, barely got it straight enough before the wheel came down. And I spend a lot of time riding MTBs in really hairy technical terrain.
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It's not only that. Longer stem puts your hands further over the front axle, so it's easier to endo the bike in rocky/rough/steep terrain. And when you are pulling on the bars to lift the front end over rocks/logs, the long stem pushes the bars further to one side when there's a slight asymmetry to the handlebar pull. Which really amplifies the amount the wheel turns off center. First time I did that on my 130mm stem gravel bike, I almost turned the wheel to 90 degrees while it was in the air, barely got it straight enough before the wheel came down. And I spend a lot of time riding MTBs in really hairy technical terrain.
Hands and weight over the front axle = more grip for the front tyre. If you're a Hubbard then I can imagine being worried about 'endo'ing a bike, but this is an aero racing frame?
Cliffs: have raced ews, there is no need for short stems for gravel.
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Hands and weight over the front axle = more grip for the front tyre. If you're a Hubbard then I can imagine being worried about 'endo'ing a bike, but this is an aero racing frame?
Cliffs: have raced ews, there is no need for short stems for gravel.
what's a hubbard?
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geometry noob here, but from what I understand this high STA also makes the effective reach quite a bit lower? I usually run my seat as far forward as I can, even with the short reach bike I got, so this actually seems like it could be quite interesting. Feels like with my extremely fat ass the extra presure on the front helps too. TBH this bike seems pretty interesting to be.
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geometry noob here, but from what I understand this high STA also makes the effective reach quite a bit lower? I usually run my seat as far forward as I can, even with the short reach bike I got, so this actually seems like it could be quite interesting. Feels like with my extremely fat ass the extra presure on the front helps too. TBH this bike seems pretty interesting to be.
Reach is most interesting when sprinting or climbing, ie generally when standing up. When sitting on the saddle, then top tube length is the more important measurement.
But generally seat tube angle and saddle position is most important so you get a good position towards the pedals/cranks. So you don't kind of pedal forward, but rather downwards. Then when you know your approx ideal seat tube angle it is usually easy to calculate approx what total reach you want/need. And i usually think toptube+stem+handlebar reach. In my case i run 551+70+77=698. This is not really 100% true, since with a steeper seat tube angle i may back up the saddle more, which would mean that same top tube length would equal to longer total reach.
My bike today does have 73.5deg seat tube angle with zero offset seatpost and saddle slammed all the way forward. To get kind of optimal position without slamming it forward i would need at least around 74.5-75deg angle. Different saddles have different rail positions also, so another saddle would be possible to move more forward than the one i use today - but the one i use is easily best for my butt today 😅
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The geometry on this LCR73 looks very promising for racing. Since Rolle2k was mentioning wide tires, I wonder if a flared integrated cockpit would complete the aero/gravel look. I found this Avian Canary https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005902791911.html (https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_c4PvAWAR) which has a 360mm option that could fit the racing purpose of this frame perfectly. Do you think the internal routing of the LCR73 will be compatible with standard ACR/FSA headsets or is it a proprietary system?
They will release a gravel specific FLARED integrated cockpit with their new aero gravel frame, don’t worry. Same as their awesome road versions but flared. So around 300g and hopefully down to 36cm.
No need to buy your bars from anywhere else
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Yer ive got no problems running 130mm stem on my Giant Revolt.
I also agree the reach is too short on this bike by a little.
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Lightcarbon does have both these in their latest PDF catalogue...
HBR18 seems to be the more flared, less drop version of their HBR17 which was standard bar for LCR018-D (allroad endurance frame).
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Does anyone have a rough idea of what the cost may be?
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I actually emailed them about price when i saw the thread...
US$719 /set including frame/fork/seat clamp/SP18 seat post+headset+spacers+storage bag+front&rear thru-axles +integrated bar/stem HBR18.
Shippingf to me in Sweden was quoted $153, and regarding paint:
https://www.lightcarbon.com/decal-painting_n43
Standard Pantone & YS color painting：US$120/set 1/color ; US$140/set/2 colors ;US$160/set/3 colors ;
Chameleon : US$140/set / color; US$160/set/2 colors; US$180/set/3 colors ;
Crystal effect painting : US$180/set / color; US$200/set/2 colors; US$220/set/3 colors
I really hope this frame clears 54mm WAM tires..
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A frame that can't clear a 2.1 thunder burt with space for mud is basically not workable at the moment.
That's the problem with the new elite bike.
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Interesting! Following this thread for any updates..
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Reach & stack on L is great. I'm 182 cm and would run 90 mm stem. My back angle is already in the more agresive <140°. Not sure why would i need a crazy long stem, I wouldn't even reach the bars.
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Reach & stack on L is great. I'm 182 cm and would run 90 mm stem. My back angle is already in the more agresive <140°. Not sure why would i need a crazy long stem, I wouldn't even reach the bars.
Sounds like you're sitting waaaay to the back and/or have short hands
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All people complaining that the reach is to short...
There are a lot of long reach frames available...
But short frames are rare. What really makes it difficult for people that have long legs and or short arms.
So for the latter one this frame is suitable ...because for me that's even a frame on the long side.
I' have to choose 54 to not have a too low stack and would have to run 70mm stem...
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All people complaining that the reach is to short...
There are a lot of long reach frames available...
But short frames are rare. What really makes it difficult for people that have long legs and or short arms.
So for the latter one this frame is suitable ...because for me that's even a frame on the long side.
I' have to choose 54 to not have a too low stack and would have to run 70mm stem...
I'm with you there, i usually find alot more frames that are "too long top tube" for my body, but have never stumbeled on one which is to short.. especially if you try running an integrated handlebars many frames is directly a no for me, because they are too long.
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All people complaining that the reach is to short...
There are a lot of long reach frames available...
But short frames are rare. What really makes it difficult for people that have long legs and or short arms.
So for the latter one this frame is suitable ...because for me that's even a frame on the long side.
I' have to choose 54 to not have a too low stack and would have to run 70mm stem...
this frame is not short. the sizing is just off. each size is too small in every dimension. 58 is stated to fit riders up to 195 but the geo looks like a size medium at best. I'm 193cm and I would need to run 600mm seatpost and 160 stem
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this frame is not short. the sizing is just off. each size is too small in every dimension. 58 is stated to fit riders up to 195 but the geo looks like a size medium at best. I'm 193cm and I would need to run 600mm seatpost and 160 stem
This is like high end marathon shoes. You undersize the item so that by comparison it appears lighter than it is - 'our medium is only xxx grams' is code for 'our medium is quite heavy so we relabelled the small a medium so you think it's lighter'.
It's what happens when, like for a lot of these Chinese brands, the headline specs sell the bike.
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this frame is not short. the sizing is just off. each size is too small in every dimension. 58 is stated to fit riders up to 195 but the geo looks like a size medium at best. I'm 193cm and I would need to run 600mm seatpost and 160 stem
As I said.. for me it's even on the long side. Agreed 100%
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Loving almost everything about that one ;D BB drop could be a little more, price could be a little less, but i like the geo and paint options a lot. following the release for sure
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I’ll take UD RAW CARBO. GLOSSY all day everyday. It is the lightest, cheapest and classiest finish possible
I’m pretty sure it will clear 50+ mm tires
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Any idea on frame weight?
I can't see it in the chat, but I may be blind.
I'm looking to build a light weight, aero gravel bike this year, but the current frames available are out of my target price bracket.
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Any idea on frame weight?
I can't see it in the chat, but I may be blind.
I'm looking to build a light weight, aero gravel bike this year, but the current frames available are out of my target price bracket.
From the other thread on their new Aero Racing Frame:
https://de.lightcarbon.com/uploadfile/downloads/2026-2027%20LightCarbon%20Frame+Component%20Catalog%20-V1.pdf
Aero Racing Gravel Carbon Frameset With Downtube Storage
Material: Toray T700+T800+M60J carbon fiber
Size: S/M/L/XL
Cable Routing: Full Internal Cable Routing
Weight(±4%): 1100g/Size M (UD matte)
Head Tube: Straight 1 1/2'' head tube
(upper 52mm lower 52mm)
Seat Post: special shape (special clamp)
Stem: 80/90/100/110/120/130mm C-T
Handlebar: 380/400/420mm
Bottom Bracket: T47*P1.0 (85.5mm)
Max Tire: 700C*50C & 650B*2.0
Dropout: Rear TA Φ12*142mm
Fork: TA Φ12*100mm
Disc Brake: Flat Mount,160mm/160mm
Hanger: UDH
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Any idea on frame weight?
I can't see it in the chat, but I may be blind.
I'm looking to build a light weight, aero gravel bike this year, but the current frames available are out of my target price bracket.
Also asked that when i emailed them about the frame, the answer was that we don't know final weight yet. so we have to wait and see.
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Any idea on frame weight?
I can't see it in the chat, but I may be blind.
I'm looking to build a light weight, aero gravel bike this year, but the current frames available are out of my target price bracket.
Aero Gravel AND light? Affordable ? You’re dreaming pal. Most +/- Gravel frames are around 1200g I know EVOLVE will release one that weighs 750g or something CRAZY like that but it will cost north of $2,000
The LIGHTCARBON could be around 1000-1100g max hopefully
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I am waiting for the May 10th release of the Evolve Cima GR. Then I will make a decision between these bikes, their geometry, and colors. This will replace my gravel bike and my endurance bikes. I MIGHT one day get down to two bikes (until N+1 creeps back in). I have the evolve Cima and it replaced my 2.5 year old Sworks. It is better than the SL8 and the parts that came with it are phenomenal, and the claimed weight tracked (which almost never happens).
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I dont understand the super short reach even in size L its shorter than most medium frame.
Its a pain to find a frame for monkey arms like me with normal inseam... +13cm ape index ahha
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I am waiting for the May 10th release of the Evolve Cima GR. Then I will make a decision between these bikes, their geometry, and colors. This will replace my gravel bike and my endurance bikes. I MIGHT one day get down to two bikes (until N+1 creeps back in). I have the evolve Cima and it replaced my 2.5 year old Sworks. It is better than the SL8 and the parts that came with it are phenomenal, and the claimed weight tracked (which almost never happens).
The Cima only clears a 50 as advertised. We are yet to see if that's ETRTO 50 (aka +6mm so WILL clear a proper tyre) or not.
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The Cima only clears a 50 as advertised. We are yet to see if that's ETRTO 50 (aka +6mm so WILL clear a proper tyre) or not.
The LC is apparently 50c max tire clearance, but disappointing.
The EVOLVE Gravel will be AT LEAST TWICE the price of the LC though…!!
LC = $900
EVOLVE = $2,000
I’m just disappointed in their new HBR18 GRAVEL bars which are just 38cm at the narrowest and not 36cm… for an AERO gravel frameset.
Flare is great, weight is great, 300g, but 38cm …
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The LC is apparently 50c max tire clearance, but disappointing.
The EVOLVE Gravel will be AT LEAST TWICE the price of the LC though…!!
LC = $900
EVOLVE = $2,000
I’m just disappointed in their new HBR18 GRAVEL bars which are just 38cm at the narrowest and not 36cm… for an AERO gravel frameset.
Flare is great, weight is great, 300g, but 38cm …
Yeah but it's half a kilo lighter. You can pays your money and takes your choice.
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The LC is apparently 50c max tire clearance, but disappointing.
The EVOLVE Gravel will be AT LEAST TWICE the price of the LC though…!!
LC = $900
EVOLVE = $2,000
I’m just disappointed in their new HBR18 GRAVEL bars which are just 38cm at the narrowest and not 36cm… for an AERO gravel frameset.
Flare is great, weight is great, 300g, but 38cm …
Have you messaged them about real tire clearance? 50mm WAM with how much room on each side? I did ask, but reply i got from Wendy was that she didnt have a frame there to measure width...
38cm is quite small for gravel i think. I usually size my gravel handlebars about my shoulder width or 2cm wider, then angle shifters inward so drops are quite wide for control and hoods are about 2cm narrower than shoulder width. So in my case ~38cm shoulders, 38-40cm bar, holds more like 36cm apart.
Now when i ordered handlebars for upcoming Mondince fm126 build, i choose 36cm bars, but that is because it is an aero road bike.
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Have you messaged them about real tire clearance? 50mm WAM with how much room on each side? I did ask, but reply i got from Wendy was that she didnt have a frame there to measure width...
38cm is quite small for gravel i think. I usually size my gravel handlebars about my shoulder width or 2cm wider, then angle shifters inward so drops are quite wide for control and hoods are about 2cm narrower than shoulder width. So in my case ~38cm shoulders, 38-40cm bar, holds more like 36cm apart.
Now when i ordered handlebars for upcoming Mondince fm126 build, i choose 36cm bars, but that is because it is an aero road bike.
Any brand whose smallest size isn't exactly at the limits of UCI rules - 34 tops 38.5ish lower c-c is a waste of time for racing and so it always surprises me.
Obviously, people want wider options, but 36 feels pretty wide already to me and I'm 6ft.
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I actually emailed them about price when i saw the thread...
US$719 /set including frame/fork/seat clamp/SP18 seat post+headset+spacers+storage bag+front&rear thru-axles +integrated bar/stem HBR18.
Shippingf to me in Sweden was quoted $153, and regarding paint:
https://www.lightcarbon.com/decal-painting_n43
Standard Pantone & YS color painting：US$120/set 1/color ; US$140/set/2 colors ;US$160/set/3 colors ;
Chameleon : US$140/set / color; US$160/set/2 colors; US$180/set/3 colors ;
Crystal effect painting : US$180/set / color; US$200/set/2 colors; US$220/set/3 colors
I really hope this frame clears 54mm WAM tires..
curious if they mentioned a timeline on when the frame would be ready?
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curious if they mentioned a timeline on when the frame would be ready?
Unfortunately not. But i emailed again asking about that and chainstay to tire clearance with 50C WAM tires.
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August is the release plan for size M-540 and L-560 according to Wendy. She will be back with tire clearance when she have a frame to check on.
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Hambini has received his, video unboxing coming soon
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Hambini has received his, video unboxing coming soon
His split frame looked more like the LCR018. Take a look at the transition between the seat tube and the top tube. The LCG072 has more of a 90-degree angle.
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His split frame looked more like the LCR018. Take a look at the transition between the seat tube and the top tube. The LCG072 has more of a 90-degree angle.
Hmmm you might be right… but Luke has had the LCR018 for weeks, if not months though, tested it & reviewed it well enough so having Hambini do the same after that seems redundant & unnecessary
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I found a strange dimension in every size .
M size should be fine for someone like me is 179 cm tall with normal proportion but its reach and top tube are too small.
what do you think ?
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Hambini Short posted: he says 52mm TIRE CLEARANCE so it IS their Aero Gravel Frame LCG72 although that name is never said and one can read « ENDURANCE » on the top tube along with the word EAGLE 🦅 🤨
Let’s hope he’ll do a proper weighing, measuring etc very soon
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Hambini Short posted: he says 52mm TIRE CLEARANCE so it IS their Aero Gravel Frame LCG72 although that name is never said and one can read « ENDURANCE » on the top tube along with the word EAGLE 🦅 🤨
Let’s hope he’ll do a proper weighing, measuring etc very soon
It is clearly the Endurance frame. The "wind eyes" are different between the frames, easy to differentiate. He must have misspoken.
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Hambini Short posted: he says 52mm TIRE CLEARANCE so it IS their Aero Gravel Frame LCG72 although that name is never said and one can read « ENDURANCE » on the top tube along with the word EAGLE 🦅 🤨
Let’s hope he’ll do a proper weighing, measuring etc very soon
I wish it were the new LCG072 frame too. But it just isn’t. It’s the LCR018 frame. Take a look at both frames in the LightCarbon catalogue. The transition from the top tube to the seat tube, the thickness of the seat tube, the small wings at the fork ends, the absence of a Speedsniffer and the shape of the rear triangle all clearly point to the 018.
Sorry mate, I’m also hoping for a proper release of the 072.
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It is clearly the Endurance frame. The "wind eyes" are different between the frames, easy to differentiate. He must have misspoken.
Yes, both the frameset and cutout frame he's displaying are the LCR018 endurance/allroad model, but he's wrongly quoting the specs of this new "aero gravel" frame, which according to LC is not even ready yet... :o
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I inquired and was told 2 months. Full bike on display at eurobike. 50mm clearance, hoped for 52-54 but ill take it.
Also LCR73 which appears very similar but without the seattube holes
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Christmas came early!
No idea what to think about the seattube holes, they do look good, but do they serve any purposes other than that?
(they are for sure popular atm, seka, bxt-055, mondince aero gravel, new tantan gravel)
And LCR73 will have same clearance of 50mm?
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And LCR73 will have same clearance of 50mm?
yup. i think the holes are claimed to be more aero but i dont really care ifthey are not, i like the looks. seems like they are letting me preorder so i might get it at release
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yup. i think the holes are claimed to be more aero but i dont really care ifthey are not, i like the looks. seems like they are letting me preorder so i might get it at release
If you do so, I will read your review with great interest, as this might be my next build as well!
I still dont know what to think about the holes, but the rest of the bike is quite stunning I have to admit. LC is offering some serious options in 2026, both on the road and on the mud.
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Hmm the frame sizes are pretty small based on the 2026-2027 LC Catalog; bit concerned that the XL size might be too small. My current gravel bike is a 56cm but LC XL is 53.6cm… I’m 194cm tall. Any thoughts ?
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yup. i think the holes are claimed to be more aero but i dont really care ifthey are not, i like the looks. seems like they are letting me preorder so i might get it at release
Where are you guys seeing the LCR73?
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Did a little "render" of how this might look fully built up. For anyone who might be interested :)
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Where are you guys seeing the LCR73?
(https://i.imgur.com/0sDAR6Z.png)
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Did a little "render" of how this might look fully built up. For anyone who might be interested :)
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Nicely done man! Looks killer. Slam that stem and HOLY SHIT. You sure Thunder Burt will for tho?
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(https://i.imgur.com/0sDAR6Z.png)
So it's the same frame without the "wind eye". I am guessing they use the same moulds for both, so you can ask for no wind eye, like you can ask for no frame storage?
With the 73 version I imagine you save a bit of weight, easier to clean and more compliant rear end.
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So it's the same frame without the "wind eye". I am guessing they use the same moulds for both, so you can ask for no wind eye, like you can ask for no frame storage?
With the 73 version I imagine you save a bit of weight, easier to clean and more compliant rear end.
I think the 73 ist the version they offer to b2b customers while the 72 is b2c. They have a 019d that doesn’t show up in their public catalogue that is like the 018d without the windeye that showed up in an extended catalogue. Asking probably doesn’t hurt.
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No it is not, I just made a down payment for a production slot for the LCG072-D in size L 56cm. Mold expected to be ready in September and frames are shipping out in November. it is with the wind-eye.
It is going to by my bike for going to work 21 km single trip in winter. in summer, I'll do that with their LCR018-D. Just fun to have the same design frame in allroad and gravel versions. It'll have a different paint design though.
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I’m just disappointed in their new HBR18 GRAVEL bars which are just 38cm at the narrowest and not 36cm… for an AERO gravel frameset.
Flare is great, weight is great, 300g, but 38cm …
HBR18 handle bar is available in 36cm. Wendy just sent me an e-mail: Handlebar HBR18 size : optional wide 36/38/40/42cm wide, stem length 80/90/100/110/120/130mm
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does anyone have some infos about the prices for the HBR18? Couldnt find anything online
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does anyone have some infos about the prices for the HBR18? Couldnt find anything online
55 if you buy with the frame iirc or 197 if you buy just the bars + shipping
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HBR18 handle bar is available in 36cm. Wendy just sent me an e-mail: Handlebar HBR18 size : optional wide 36/38/40/42cm wide, stem length 80/90/100/110/120/130mm
That’s be great cos in the catalogue it is stated 38 to 42cm !!
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Hi everyone, regarding the Threaded T47 * P1.0 bottom bracket (85.5mm width), do you know if I can mount the THINKRIDER PP5 Road Bicycle Crank Power Meter Carbon Fiber Crankset 4 Bolt 110BCD 24mm Dual-Side Balance Front Cadence For Shimano crankset sold on aliexpress? I have already mounted this crankset with positive results on the LCR017 frame, but since this one is wider, I had a doubt. Thanks in advance everyone!
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Any more info about it?
ETA?
Any has ordered it? I would really like to know the real maximum tires it can take!!
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I reached out to Jim about pre ordering just now. Seems like a great frame to swap between road and gravel with two wheelsets. Hoping I can sell my Santa Cruz MtB and Hygge frameset to consolidate down to a single bike
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Short from Hambini over at YT from EuroBike '26 about this frame: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4ptw9lrtYh0 (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4ptw9lrtYh0)
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Short from Hambini over at YT from EuroBike '26 about this frame: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4ptw9lrtYh0 (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4ptw9lrtYh0)
I like the minimal branding, wouldn't mind having that logo on the bike at all :D.
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970 $ for the LCG072. They offered me the LCR020 for 799$. The cheap days are over :)
But i must note: i'm very happy with my Lightcarbon products so far. And 100% satisfied. Building my 3rd LC bike soon
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Saw this handlebar in a video about Eurobike 2026 from zealot128. It is their new gravel bar. Upgrade to this HBR20 is $70.- which I went for. Handlebars are available near the end of the year, hopefully around the same time my LCG072-D frame is finished.
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Hi everyone,
I'm planning to build up the new LightCarbon LCG072-D aero gravel and I'd love some advice before I commit. I want a great value-for-money, do-it-all build: gravel races, bikepacking trips, and winter riding so I can spare my race bike. So it needs to be fast-ish but above all versatile and reliable, not a weight-weenie special. I'll probably run SRAM 1×12 or 1×13 (XPLR AXS or a mullet setup — still deciding), so I'd need an XDR freehub.
1) Size: S or M? (my main question)
I'm 170 cm, ~70 kg, right on the S/M border. My fit numbers from a pro bike fit (currently on a Tarmac SL7 size 52, reach 374 / stack 524):
Saddle height 711 mm (BB → saddle), 165 mm cranks
Effective seat angle 74°, saddle setback ~78 mm
Bar position to replicate: BB → bar 473 mm reach / 594 mm stack (110 mm stem + 35 mm spacers, 400 mm bar)
LCG072-D geo: M = reach 377 / stack 565 (HTA 71.5°); S = reach 368 / stack 547 (HTA 70.5°), both 74° seat angle.
M: reach 377 ≈ my Tarmac 374 → keep ~110 stem, few spacers.
S: needs ~120 stem + ~25–30 mm spacers, but more exposed seatpost (which I like) and more standover — shorter front-center though (toe overlap with wide tires?).
What would you pick at 170 cm for a do-it-all bike that'll also carry bikepacking loads?
2) Availability
LightCarbon (Jim) told me size M can be booked now (~1–2 months), but I'm unsure about S — worried it might be M-only for a while. Anyone ordered an S, or knows the real lead time for the smaller sizes?
3) Budget wheels (XDR, ~50C max frame, winter + bikepacking proof)
Looking for good-value gravel wheels that are durable and easy to service (winter grime + loaded trips), not the lightest. Got a quote from Zen for a 45mm-deep, 32 mm internal superlight set. My frame maxes at 50C and I'll run 40–45C, so I worry 32 mm internal is too wide (better for 60c frames?).
Would 25–28 mm internal be the smarter pick for my tire range?
For winter/bikepacking I'm leaning to 24/24 Sapim CX-Ray over carbon spokes — agree?
Recommendations among value brands (Zen / Winspace / Yoeleo / Farsports / Elitewheels), XDR, ~1300–1400 g, bombproof?
4) Cockpit / handlebar problem
The dedicated integrated gravel bar for this frame (HBR18) is currently only available in 40 cm (other widths = much longer wait), but I'd probably want a 38 cm (my road grip width is fairly narrow). So I'm considering alternatives: another LightCarbon integrated bar (the HBR08 gravel comes in 38/40/42), or a separate stem + flared gravel bar from another brand for more fit flexibility.
With this frame's full-internal routing, can you actually run a standard stem + bar (does the headset/top-cap allow external-to-internal cable entry), or are you locked into LightCarbon's integrated cockpit?
Anyone running an alternative cockpit on an LCR/LCG LightCarbon frame? Recommended 38 cm flared gravel bars?
5) Anything I'm missing?
Open to any advice — the proprietary seatpost, tire choice, bikepacking mounts, or general build tips for best bang-for-buck on a do-it-all rig.
Thanks a lot in advance! 🙏
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I have no idea about size S. Wendy said the M-mold is finished and M size frames will be available within 2-3 months. The L mold is done in September, first frames from that will be in November. I made 50% deposit for one of the first production slots for an L size. Untill then I'l be riding my LCR018-D.
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Hi all, I'm on the market for a new frame and to me it's between the LCR018-D (endurance road) and this one. Main sticking point for me is that I want to be able to put 40C tires on my bike and I think that's a bit of a stretch for the LCR. That's putting me on to this frame here.
Can someone help me understand: the stack and reach of this LCG072 frame are within single-digit millimeters of the LCR018-D. That can't be right, can it? To me, the LCG seems like the LCR with a marginally more slack seat tube angle, a slightly more slack head tube angle, plus a 9mm higher BB and a few more MM on the chainstays. Like, it's really not very different. Main difference is tire clearance, supposedly up to 50mm based on this thread.
So I guess my (perhaps naive) question is: am I wrong? And if not, why would one buy the LCR over this one? I mean, I worry that my 32mm road tires would look weird in the cavernous front fork, but are there other compelling reasons to avoid this frame if most of my riding is on tarmac?
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The sizing for XS and S are the same on the original geo chart photo?
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So this frame has caught my eye and I noticed that geometry-wise it's basically a 3T Racemax 2 Italia, the difference is no more than a few mm's here and there. Just an observation.
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Well this looks very very interesting... I have a full spreadsheet built up for the LCR018-D and was just getting ready to pull the trigger - but 50 mm clearance really speaks to me. Anyone got an idea if you'll be able to order the forks with mounting points? ;D I would ask Wendy but I think she's getting somewhat tired of my questions at this point ::)
Also tack viktor for the render - helps to visualize. Those huge tires with brown sidewalls look so good...
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Hey, can someone give me an email to Wendy? id like to contact her regarding this frameset
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Well this looks very very interesting... I have a full spreadsheet built up for the LCR018-D and was just getting ready to pull the trigger - but 50 mm clearance really speaks to me.
This seems like such an interesting frame to me because it's within single-digit millimeters of stack/reach of the LCR018-D, just with clearance for 50C tires. I'm wondering why someone would ever opt for the LCR018 when this one is nearly identical unless 1) whatever marginal weight savings really, really matter to you, or 2) you truly never plan to run tires wider than 35C or so... in which case why not look at a frame with even less tire clearance to maximize aero benefits?
As of right now, seems like this is the ideal N=1 bike for me...
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This seems like such an interesting frame to me because it's within single-digit millimeters of stack/reach of the LCR018-D, just with clearance for 50C tires. I'm wondering why someone would ever opt for the LCR018 when this one is nearly identical unless 1) whatever marginal weight savings really, really matter to you, or 2) you truly never plan to run tires wider than 35C or so... in which case why not look at a frame with even less tire clearance to maximize aero benefits?
As of right now, seems like this is the ideal N=1 bike for me...
Yeah full agree. I was honestly quite fine with 38c because I was mostly planning on riding on paved roads and quite nice gravel roads (plenty of those in southern Sweden). But if I can buy pretty much the same bike but ALSO have the possibility to send it down some gnarlier stuff with huge tires... I mean it's a pretty easy call.
As an aside - don't know if I'm fooling myself but I swear the fork looks different than LCR018-D, cooler somehow (from the side).
Anyways, how are you planning on building it up?
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Yeah full agree. I was honestly quite fine with 38c because I was mostly planning on riding on paved roads and quite nice gravel roads (plenty of those in southern Sweden). But if I can buy pretty much the same bike but ALSO have the possibility to send it down some gnarlier stuff with huge tires... I mean it's a pretty easy call.
As an aside - don't know if I'm fooling myself but I swear the fork looks different than LCR018-D, cooler somehow (from the side).
Anyways, how are you planning on building it up?
Same here. 38C would get the job done for 99% of my riding around the New York City area. A vast majority of my rides would be on our (relatively crappy) city streets, so ~35C tires would be ideal. Nearly all of the gravel around NYC would be fine on 38Cs with some tread. But there are a few routes a bit farther afield that would benefit from 45Cs, and I would hate to exclude myself from those rides if I don't have to. My current bike is an aluminum gravel bike (GT Grade Comp), so I can access those trails, but the geometry is so long and slack that it feels a bit like steering a boat on the road. This LCG072 seems to make no trade-offs in terms of geometry that would affect me on the vast majority of the courses I ride. Pretty compelling.
Anyway, I've already got two wheelsets... one Elitewheels Drive (gen 1) 50D running Conti GP5K 32C for road duty and one Elitewheels Marvel G35 running Pirelli Cinturato Gravel H 45C for gravel duty. Idea would be to build this frame up with a GRX 2x12 Di2 groupset, british racing green custom paint, with brown saddle & bar tape. I've always lusted after that color combo.
Also re: the fork, yeah I think it's a new design. I started a thread about this on the Chinese Carbon subreddit and someone mentioned that Lightcarbon did redesign the fork for even more clearance, but that's unverified info since few details about this frameset exist in the real world.
How would you build this one up?
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Would you go full GRX or since it's made for a lot of road (thus 2x) you would put a 105 (or other) fd + crankset ?
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Would you go full GRX or since it's made for a lot of road (thus 2x) you would put a 105 (or other) fd + crankset ?
Maybe I just haven’t done enough research but it seems to me that there’s no real downside to a full GRX groupset on the road. It’s marginally heavier, though to make up for that difference I’d just make sure I pee before heading out ;D. On the other side, the FD affords more rear tire clearance, the RD gives you a clutch to prevent dropped chains on rough terrain (including cobblestones and potholes), and the hoods have superior ergonomics to 105 (imo). Maybe there’s something I’m missing but I figure I’d keep it simple and just go full GRX.
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I was inquiring about the LCR72 frameset when Jim sent me this video link. Uploading it here to see if you guys are able to discover anything new from this walk around video.
https://youtube.com/shorts/1C30oM0YpDU (https://youtube.com/shorts/1C30oM0YpDU)
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I was inquiring about the LCR72 frameset when Jim sent me this video link. Uploading it here to see if you guys are able to discover anything new from this walk around video.
https://youtube.com/shorts/1C30oM0YpDU (https://youtube.com/shorts/1C30oM0YpDU)
Thanks for sharing the video. 50c tires? Seems like there is no room for more…!!
Looks gorgeous
Now we gotta sort out the Gravel Handlebars thing: Wendy apparently says 36cm minimum while Carol told me 38cm minimum…
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According to Jim, rear tire clearance measures (WAM) are 50mm for 1x and 45mm with FD/2x...
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Well this looks very very interesting... I have a full spreadsheet built up for the LCR018-D and was just getting ready to pull the trigger - but 50 mm clearance really speaks to me. Anyone got an idea if you'll be able to order the forks with mounting points? ;D I would ask Wendy but I think she's getting somewhat tired of my questions at this point ::)
Also tack viktor for the render - helps to visualize. Those huge tires with brown sidewalls look so good...
Fork can not be delivered with mounting points. I asked for my 56cm. Only the toptube can have 2 mounting points
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Hey, can someone give me an email to Wendy? id like to contact her regarding this frameset
wendy@lightcarbon.com
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I ordered a 56 end of May and made a down payment to reserve a production slot. Then created a design which is now finished and made the balance payment.
Frame comes in at 719 usd, custom painting is 250usd. That is the price for most paint jobs. New policy from LC. Even a matte black with decals costs 250 usd. So you might just as well go crazy and have it in a color with custom decals.
I only have to decide if I'm going for the HBR18 bar or the new HBR20. Can't do that right now as the HBR20 specs are not yet final.
Hopefully my frame will be ready end of this year.
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What does 50 mm for 1x and 45 mm for 2x WAM even mean? Put these tires on a trendy 29+ mm inner width rims and you're already over the 'legal' limit for this frame. Just label it as 40-45 mm, with some room to spare, and be done with it. But then again, who buys <50 mm gravel bikes these days, so you do have to put at least 50 mm in the specs somehow.
I did some research and it seems that those 50 mm tires in a previously posted walkaround video are mounted on a 26 mm rims, and it already looks like that there's barely any room left for some decent mud.
I'm just angry, because I do like this frame and was seriously considering it. Rant over.
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Let’s wait for the first batch to be sent & built and we’ll see whatbthe real MAX tiree clearance is.
Usually 50mm max tire clearance advertised means 52 to 54mm possible
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In the same file, there was also an image of suggested chainring size and tire clearance. I know some of you guys are not too happy with the tire clearance. What are your thoughts about the max chainring size.
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Chainring max sizes according to Jim:
1) If use Shimano crankset, max 2x chainring 50-34T, max 1x chainring 46T (smaller ones are all fine).
2) If use Sram crankset, max 2x chainring 50-37T, max 1x chainring 50T (smaller ones are all fine).
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Let’s wait for the first batch to be sent & built and we’ll see whatbthe real MAX tiree clearance is.
Usually 50mm max tire clearance advertised means 52 to 54mm possible
Yea, i will also wait for this. Would want to fit thunder burt 2.1's but not need any more than that.
So if those are possible to fit - with OK clearance i will go for this frame. If it really is max 50mm, WAM... then i'm don't know how i'll do.
The other thing to consider is - what is appropriate clearance according to Lightcarbon? I would say 6mm on each side at WAM should be a standard. Even more (1.5cm min?) above in the fork.
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I preordered this frame in size medium, and it's scheduled to ship in September.
The total cost for the unpainted UD matte frame and HBR18 handlebar was 719 USD, plus 200 USD for shipping and PayPal fees. If you pair your purchase up with a set of wheels from them, Lightcarbon will give you a 50 USD discount. However, the shipping cost would cost around 250 USD.
They also offer a 15 mm setback (offset) seatpost option.
How much would the aero seatpost affect ride comfort compared to a traditional round seatpost?
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Hi all, I'm on the market for a new frame and to me it's between the LCR018-D (endurance road) and this one. Main sticking point for me is that I want to be able to put 40C tires on my bike and I think that's a bit of a stretch for the LCR. That's putting me on to this frame here.
Can someone help me understand: the stack and reach of this LCG072 frame are within single-digit millimeters of the LCR018-D. That can't be right, can it? To me, the LCG seems like the LCR with a marginally more slack seat tube angle, a slightly more slack head tube angle, plus a 9mm higher BB and a few more MM on the chainstays. Like, it's really not very different. Main difference is tire clearance, supposedly up to 50mm based on this thread.
So I guess my (perhaps naive) question is: am I wrong? And if not, why would one buy the LCR over this one? I mean, I worry that my 32mm road tires would look weird in the cavernous front fork, but are there other compelling reasons to avoid this frame if most of my riding is on tarmac?
That’s a question I’ve been asking myself, too.
I’m considering an aero road frame... in terms of looks, I really like the LCR020-D and XMCS VRT, but both have very little slope (seat tube length of 545/540mm for a size L/56). This means the exposed seatpost length would be quite minimal (170/175mm for a saddle height of around 765mm).
Their respective gravel versions (LCG072-D and XMCS GRT), aside from being very similar to the road models, have shorter seat tubes (520/490mm), which would look better aesthetically. However, they have quite different geometries, particularly regarding a higher stack/shorter reach, a more closed head tube angle, and longer chainstays... these features should make for a more stable and easier ride, though likely at the expense of the frame's responsiveness.
So, ultimately, I’m not sure if they would be the best choice for predominantly road use.
That said, the LCG072-D posted by Hambini and Jim looks amazing! Maybe even better than the LCR020-D and LCR018-D!
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Their respective gravel versions (LCG072-D and XMCS GRT), aside from being very similar to the road models, have shorter seat tubes (520/490mm), which would look better aesthetically. However, they have quite different geometries, particularly regarding a higher stack/shorter reach, a more closed head tube angle, and longer chainstays... these features should make for a more stable and easier ride, though likely at the expense of the frame's responsiveness.
So, ultimately, I’m not sure if they would be the best choice for predominantly road use.
That said, the LCG072-D posted by Hambini and Jim looks amazing! Maybe even better than the LCR020-D and LCR018-D!
Hmm, so I’m looking at the geo charts and comparing the LCG072-D to the LCR018-D, in size L/560. They’re so similar. Single digit mm difference on stack/reach, head tube angle about 1 degree difference, chain stay 5mm longer on the LCG and wheelbase 18mm longer on the LCG (that’s the most significant difference). So I’m not so sure that these would ride all that differently on tarmac unless I’m underestimating the difference a handful of millimeters here and there can make. Am I off base?
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Hmm, so I’m looking at the geo charts and comparing the LCG072-D to the LCR018-D, in size L/560. They’re so similar. Single digit mm difference on stack/reach, head tube angle about 1 degree difference, chain stay 5mm longer on the LCG and wheelbase 18mm longer on the LCG (that’s the most significant difference). So I’m not so sure that these would ride all that differently on tarmac unless I’m underestimating the difference a handful of millimeters here and there can make. Am I off base?
Hi, the comparison I’m making, though, is between the LCR020-D and the LCG072-D (the LCR018-D is sort of a middle ground between the two—perhaps closer to the LCG072-D than the LCR020-D). ;)
What I don't like about the LCR020-D is the top tube being so straight/with very little slope...the rest of the geometry would work for me.
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stack and reach isn't everything. i mean it helps you figure out if you'll fit on the bike, but it doesn't tell you much about how it will handle.
i have a LCR018. just got it last week and taken in on a couple of rides and it's a fantastic aero endurance bike, replacing a 11year old non-aero endurance rim brake bike. i also have a litespeed flint gravel bike (titanium).
just because their stack and reach of the LCR072 and LCR018 are close, doesn't mean they handle the same. my old bike's geometry was more criterium road bike so super short chainstays, short wheelbase, steep head tube angle, small bb drop (to high center of gravity)...so accelerated quickly and could turn on a dime.
so when i got the gravel bike, with 2.5 deg slacker hta, 8mm more bb drop, longer chainstays and wheelbase, it was super noticeable. i didn't like it at first, to be honest. felt sluggish when taking tight corkscrew chicanes or twisty road descents, versus the dartier/quicker handling of the road bike but i've gotten used to it and appreciate what it's good at now: much more stable on bumpier descents.
but if you're fairly new to cycling and/or can't feel or care about the difference, then go for it. some people don't care... one person's "sluggish" is another person's "it handles fine."
you can't have everything....super quick handling and ability to fit 57mm wide tires... there's compromises to every frame design. i see the attraction of one bike to do it all, but it means compromises. if you're willing to accept them, you do get a roomier garage :-)
i came over here to learn more about the LCR072 since i love the LCR018 so much... but at 50c max tire clearance, i'll have to pass. my current gravel bike's a great bike other than being a bit heavy and max's out at 50c tires. for the trails i ride, i'd like a bit more tire clearance.
hoping LC will come out with a LCR073 for 2027 with a bit more tire clearance.
Hmm, so I’m looking at the geo charts and comparing the LCG072-D to the LCR018-D, in size L/560. They’re so similar. Single digit mm difference on stack/reach, head tube angle about 1 degree difference, chain stay 5mm longer on the LCG and wheelbase 18mm longer on the LCG (that’s the most significant difference). So I’m not so sure that these would ride all that differently on tarmac unless I’m underestimating the difference a handful of millimeters here and there can make. Am I off base?
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i also have a litespeed flint gravel bike (titanium).
Ok so my current bike is a GT grade comp which, even as far as gravel bikes go, has a hilariously long reach and wheelbase. And yes I would describe it as “sluggish”.
Seems like the GT Grade size M is 55mm longer wheelbase than your Litespeed in size L, which is 48mm longer in turn than the LCG072 in 56. lol. Huge difference. Similar story for chainstay length.
For reference I tried my friend’s Trek Domane (56) and it felt downright squirrelly compared to what I was used to, and I’m trying to triangulate how the LCG072 might feel on the spectrum of “boat-like gravel bike” to “Domane.” My impression is that the LCG072 will handle far closer to a road bike than the gravel bike I’m used to, or even than the Litespeed you’re used to, which I would consider a win for my application.
Any insight to offer there? Thanks in advance!
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i think you’re good. everything is relative, so yes, i think you’d find the LCG072 quick and sporty.
Ok so my current bike is a GT grade comp which, even as far as gravel bikes go, has a hilariously long reach and wheelbase. And yes I would describe it as “sluggish”.
Seems like the GT Grade size M is 55mm longer wheelbase than your Litespeed in size L, which is 48mm longer in turn than the LCG072 in 56. lol. Huge difference. Similar story for chainstay length.
For reference I tried my friend’s Trek Domane (56) and it felt downright squirrelly compared to what I was used to, and I’m trying to triangulate how the LCG072 might feel on the spectrum of “boat-like gravel bike” to “Domane.” My impression is that the LCG072 will handle far closer to a road bike than the gravel bike I’m used to, or even than the Litespeed you’re used to, which I would consider a win for my application.
Any insight to offer there? Thanks in advance!
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Anyway, I've already got two wheelsets... one Elitewheels Drive (gen 1) 50D running Conti GP5K 32C for road duty and one Elitewheels Marvel G35 running Pirelli Cinturato Gravel H 45C for gravel duty. Idea would be to build this frame up with a GRX 2x12 Di2 groupset, british racing green custom paint, with brown saddle & bar tape. I've always lusted after that color combo.
Sounds really nice, good versatility with GRX 2x too and racing green is a sweet color for sure - saw some other people posting their 018-D's in that color, really nice. Cool idea to match it with the bartape and saddle, it's giving like retro luxury.
Also re: the fork, yeah I think it's a new design. I started a thread about this on the Chinese Carbon subreddit and someone mentioned that Lightcarbon did redesign the fork for even more clearance, but that's unverified info since few details about this frameset exist in the real world.
Took another look at the fork and yeah, it is much more "angular" at the bottom - sharper. Reminding me of the new orca aero that released a couple of days ago (GCN did a video on it). Now that I think about it, this frame is general is quite reminiscent of the orca aero regarding seat stays and "aero shape", not that I mind, I think the orca is quite a beautiful bike.
How would you build this one up?
I thought I had settled on a build - 2x mix of ltwoo R9 mech hydraulic with 105 cassette and chain, 40m deep carbon wheels from superteam with Conti 5k all season TR 35c (or similar). But now that I might be able to rock 50's... Now I kind of really want to build it up be able to do some proper off road bikepacking.
I'm now thinking a 1x mullet setup with either SRAM AXS or ltwoo GRT 12x (I'm not sure how much I want to spend yet...) with a 42 upfront and 11-52 cassette. Maybe bigger upfront, not sure yet. Also get some gravel specific rims and run the absolute widest tires I can fit. How are you liking the Cinturatos?
Either way mine will be raw carbon glossy without decals but with accent colors on the bartape, saddle rails and bar ends - not sure however which color that will be yet. And also very importantly: it will be ordered with the separate bar stem solution from a previous model of LCR017 so that I can mount whatever 31.8 handlebars that I'd like (for aerobars and other gizmos) - don't ask me how much time I spend figuring out that this was an option/solution for my mounting problems.
Planning all of this is honestly so much fun.
EDIT: added handlebar hack info.
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Fork can not be delivered with mounting points. I asked for my 56cm. Only the toptube can have 2 mounting points
Thanks a bunch for that Konajra! All in all, not massively important. I'll still be able to get water bottles or something light on there if I really need the space. Also I suppose nothing stops me from changing the fork at some point should I actually feel the need to...(did someone say Temu suspension fork?)
Bento box mounting points are going on there though!
Cheers
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How are you liking the Cinturatos?
Not that I have a ton of points of comparison, but the Cinturato gravel H in 45C had me embarrassingly overbiked on cat 1 and 2 gravel. Felt like riding a couch. Absolutely no issues with grip (obviously). What did surprise me about them is that they also felt significantly faster than my previous Gravelking SS+ in 38C on pavement. Shockingly quick!
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Jim provided a little bit more info for this frame. Apparently it is only compatible with electronic shifting...
How are the reviews for the LTWOO EGR?
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LightCarbon team has posted a new batch of frame photos. Nice to see more closer details of the frame. Check them out.
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That looks very nice up close. Happy I ordered this one as.
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I preordered/paid for this on June 1st with a custom paint job. On June 24th, I asked for an estimate and was told 50-60 days.
Asked 5 days ago if everything is on schedule for the next 2-3 weeks, but got no reply yet.
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Was going to order this one but cannot decide how to do. Geometry is perfect for me - but i dont know about sizes.. Medium got almost to small front-center, only around 600mm, so maybe risk of toe overlap?
While large got fairly high seat tube, so it will probably be quite a bit less comfort and taller standover height...
So i have not decided yet. Also maybe waiting before someone gets the frame and can check clearance for tires first.
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I preordered/paid for this on June 1st with a custom paint job. On June 24th, I asked for an estimate and was told 50-60 days.
Asked 5 days ago if everything is on schedule for the next 2-3 weeks, but got no reply yet.
Which size did you order? I ordered and paid for a 56 with a custom paint job, also in June. Just sent an email today to ask if I can make some tweaks to the design. I think it should be possible sindce the mold for a 56 frame will be ready at the end of September. At least that's what I was told. Knowing myself, this probably won't be the last time I ask for some changes :).
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Which size did you order? I ordered and paid for a 56 with a custom paint job, also in June. Just sent an email today to ask if I can make some tweaks to the design. I think it should be possible sindce the mold for a 56 frame will be ready at the end of September. At least that's what I was told. Knowing myself, this probably won't be the last time I ask for some changes :).
Medium size. I don't want to do any changes since I made an order, because that might just prolong it. Hopefully I can get it next month.
I went with the original paint job style half-half, but the bottom part is glossy raw carbon, while the top is LCB-01HS Chameleon - same as my LCF918 :)
Also, no logo on the downtube, but smaller logo on the top tube. Attached concept with my current fully build.
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I received an update regarding the new frame.
For size M, the current estimate is around 25 days to complete the raw finish, followed by approximately 20 days for painting.
Since this is a completely new model, they are taking extra care before starting full production.
In addition to the standard testing process, they have produced a small pre-production batch for further checks. These are the UD matte frames shown in the shared photos.
Mass production should begin once this additional test batch has successfully passed all inspections.
I told him to keep me updated :)
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I'm also going with LightCarbon's LCB-01HS, but with a matte finish. The frame will receive a full custom decal kit, with all graphics in YS877C metallic silver, sealed beneath the matte clear coat.
Since I couldn't find any real-world examples of a matte LCB-01HS frame, I spent quite a bit of time trying to visualize the final result. I used photos of a gloss LCB-01HS LCR018-D frame and several reference photos of a time trial bike in the same color. With those references, I created a series of Photoshop mock-ups and refined them with the help of ChatGPT.
Based on those references, we expect the matte finish to shift the appearance towards a darker petrol green, while still showing subtle blue and violet tones depending on the viewing angle and lighting.
Hopefully, the render below is a close representation of what the finished bike will look like once it's built.
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I can’t find that LCB-01HS on the light carbon site. Is it posted there ?
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It is at the top of all the chameleon colors
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I'm also going with LightCarbon's LCB-01HS, but with a matte finish. The frame will receive a full custom decal kit, with all graphics in YS877C metallic silver, sealed beneath the matte clear coat.
Since I couldn't find any real-world examples of a matte LCB-01HS frame, I spent quite a bit of time trying to visualize the final result. I used photos of a gloss LCB-01HS LCR018-D frame and several reference photos of a time trial bike in the same color. With those references, I created a series of Photoshop mock-ups and refined them with the help of ChatGPT.
Based on those references, we expect the matte finish to shift the appearance towards a darker petrol green, while still showing subtle blue and violet tones depending on the viewing angle and lighting.
Hopefully, the render below is a close representation of what the finished bike will look like once it's built.
Bear in mind that it may look slightly different from the reference photos. It can appear more green or more purple depending on the light, so it will not always look “perfect.”
I believe the latest photo and video added here show the matte LCB-01HS:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/73QB51TrpgSg2jQe9
Maybe they’ve improved the finish since last year so it's more consistent every time.
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I know, that is the beauty of a chameleon paint. It might also be darker than I have in the mock up, depending on the amount of light. Ooh, your link gives a 404 error.
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Modified the link, should work now
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Thanks, looking at the photo and video I think that my mock-up is pretty close to what in wil look like in bright daylight. it seems these studio photos/video are shot with a lower light intesity compared to full shinshine. Anyway it gives a good idea. Happy with my choice for matte 01HS
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What are peoples' thoughts on the geo? Seems a bit short/non-aggressive for such an aero looking gravel frame?
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Hi everyone,
I'm planning to build up the new LightCarbon LCG072-D aero gravel and I'd love some advice before I commit. I want a great value-for-money, do-it-all build: gravel races, bikepacking trips, and winter riding so I can spare my race bike. So it needs to be fast-ish but above all versatile and reliable, not a weight-weenie special. I'll probably run SRAM 1×12 or 1×13 (XPLR AXS or a mullet setup — still deciding), so I'd need an XDR freehub.
1) Size: S or M? (my main question)
I'm 170 cm, ~70 kg, right on the S/M border. My fit numbers from a pro bike fit (currently on a Tarmac SL7 size 52, reach 374 / stack 524):
Saddle height 711 mm (BB → saddle), 165 mm cranks
Effective seat angle 74°, saddle setback ~78 mm
Bar position to replicate: BB → bar 473 mm reach / 594 mm stack (110 mm stem + 35 mm spacers, 400 mm bar)
LCG072-D geo: M = reach 377 / stack 565 (HTA 71.5°); S = reach 368 / stack 547 (HTA 70.5°), both 74° seat angle.
M: reach 377 ≈ my Tarmac 374 → keep ~110 stem, few spacers.
S: needs ~120 stem + ~25–30 mm spacers, but more exposed seatpost (which I like) and more standover — shorter front-center though (toe overlap with wide tires?).
What would you pick at 170 cm for a do-it-all bike that'll also carry bikepacking loads?
2) Availability
LightCarbon (Jim) told me size M can be booked now (~1–2 months), but I'm unsure about S — worried it might be M-only for a while. Anyone ordered an S, or knows the real lead time for the smaller sizes?
3) Budget wheels (XDR, ~50C max frame, winter + bikepacking proof)
Looking for good-value gravel wheels that are durable and easy to service (winter grime + loaded trips), not the lightest. Got a quote from Zen for a 45mm-deep, 32 mm internal superlight set. My frame maxes at 50C and I'll run 40–45C, so I worry 32 mm internal is too wide (better for 60c frames?).
Would 25–28 mm internal be the smarter pick for my tire range?
For winter/bikepacking I'm leaning to 24/24 Sapim CX-Ray over carbon spokes — agree?
Recommendations among value brands (Zen / Winspace / Yoeleo / Farsports / Elitewheels), XDR, ~1300–1400 g, bombproof?
4) Cockpit / handlebar problem
The dedicated integrated gravel bar for this frame (HBR18) is currently only available in 40 cm (other widths = much longer wait), but I'd probably want a 38 cm (my road grip width is fairly narrow). So I'm considering alternatives: another LightCarbon integrated bar (the HBR08 gravel comes in 38/40/42), or a separate stem + flared gravel bar from another brand for more fit flexibility.
With this frame's full-internal routing, can you actually run a standard stem + bar (does the headset/top-cap allow external-to-internal cable entry), or are you locked into LightCarbon's integrated cockpit?
Anyone running an alternative cockpit on an LCR/LCG LightCarbon frame? Recommended 38 cm flared gravel bars?
5) Anything I'm missing?
Open to any advice — the proprietary seatpost, tire choice, bikepacking mounts, or general build tips for best bang-for-buck on a do-it-all rig.
Thanks a lot in advance! 🙏
Sorry couldn't answer most of your questions but I did inquire about the S sizes a few nights ago - I'm about the same height as you though I'm much heavier at 100kg. Got a response from Jim that they'll be done end of September along with the rest of the molds/sizes. Unsure if this means that actual bikes will be available/sent off or if final production will set off in Sept. I also did inquire about an XS size because my inseam is about 27.5-28inches/~700mm+ as I felt the S might still be a bit big but there is currently no plan for it.
I am looking at getting this bike myself and looking in a S. Currently have a 2012 CAAD10 in 52cm (had been sitting for a while until wife picked up cycling) and it's quite close in size to the LCG-072 via BikeInsights.com but higher stack and a bit shorter reach. The CAAD10 is a little big for me so I swapped my stem for a 20mm shorter one last month. It's helped my reach issues but I feel this geometry will help with getting less pressure off my hands. I'm going to get a bike fitting at the end of October so will know more but definitely looking forward to what others have to say once they get their frames.
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End of september is the date the molds for most other sizes than M are ready to be used in production. Meaning it will take some time after that before the first frames form those molds are leaving the factory. Especially if they first make test frames from those molds. I'm told the first frames size L will be end of october if you're lucky. Mine needs to be painted so will likely end up at my door around Christmas. Around the same time I receieved the LCR18-D in 2025.
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Does anyone happen to know if the additional $300 is also charged on the LCR72? ??? ::)
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Aditional $300 for what?
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custom painting. its definitely a company wide decision. i understand they have a good reputation and can afford a price hike, but the lcr72 was already pretty expensive compared to their other frames. i paid 1100€ for it and already had doubts, but for close to 1400 i would not even have considered it
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Have it painted here in the Netherlands, and you would pay at least triple the amount. So this frame, even with a custom paint job it is still a bargain, I think. My total was also just above 1100 dollar including DPD (tax included) shipping and custom paint.
Wendy told me that all frames would get a $250-300 upcharge for anything other than matte black. So, even if you only want a set of decals on the matte black frame, you are charged the 250-300 dollar.
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I ordered mine yesterday with Custom Paint and for now they don’t charge 300$ more. I paid 1100$.
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You were also charged 250-300 for custom paint. The frame is 719 matte black no decals. Paint 250, shipping 130-140, makes a total of around 1100 :)
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I just asked for an update. They updated the chainstay, so it will take another month.
They say my size M with raw finish will be ready at the end of September for the custom paint.
It is what it is. I don’t mind as long as the final result is worth it and the frame is done properly
I have already all the other parts for nearly a month :D
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Photo of the HBR20
Don’t like the look from above…
+$70 if you choose THIS one.
The quote I got was indeed $719 (with the gravel handlebars) UD RAW + $153 shipping to Europe.
Carol didn’t say anything about a surcharge for UD RAW GLOSSY finish instead of matte
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I haven't seen a raw frame yet, and no one in this thread has answered my question about whether the frame is a one-piece mould.
However, if it isn't, a raw UD finish might not look that great at the intersections.
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This. Also not a 1 piece mould, still looks tidy though.
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This. Also not a 1 piece mould, still looks tidy though.
Where did you get that picture from? That's an LCR018 allroad frame, exactly like mine (size and finish), it's not this new LCG072 aero gravel frame!
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Photo of the HBR20
Don’t like the look from above…
+$70 if you choose THIS one.
The quote I got was indeed $719 (with the gravel handlebars) UD RAW + $153 shipping to Europe.
Carol didn’t say anything about a surcharge for UD RAW GLOSSY finish instead of matte
I’ve also seen this riser handlebar in a few YouTube videos, and I actually prefer the way it looks. Does anyone know what model it is?
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Where did you get that picture from? That's an LCR018 allroad frame, exactly like mine (size and finish), it's not this new LCR072 aero gravel frame!
Want sent from the factory. Yes it is LCR018 but just showing gloss raw carbon for context.
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Want sent from the factory. Yes it is LCR018 but just showing gloss raw carbon for context.
I wasn't implying you didn't know it was an LCR018 frame, but you didn't mention it and look at the name of the picture file...
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I’ve also seen this riser handlebar in a few YouTube videos, and I actually prefer the way it looks. Does anyone know what model it is?
HBR17
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HBR17
No, that's not an HBR017, the one that was launched along with the LCR018 frame (I have one). The flare, rise and shape are different on the pictured handlebar...
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I wasn't implying you didn't know it was an LCR018 frame, but you didn't mention it and look at the name of the picture file...
Yes I think the factory mislabeled the photo. It’s a good looking frame.
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That riser bar is a 3D printed bar, according to Trace Velo. It could be a preliminary version of the HBR20. It doesn't look like a lot of flare. The HBR20 also doesn't have a huge flare. Only 6 degree. Going from a 380 to 410 in the drops. If it is a preliminary version they sure did change the stem a lot. I like the shape of both handlebars. I ordered my frame with a HBR20. Just to get rid of the 30mm of spacer underneath my HBR17 on the LCR18-D
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I’ve also seen this riser handlebar in a few YouTube videos, and I actually prefer the way it looks. Does anyone know what model it is?
Yes this one looks MUCH better! Just simple & elegant, kinda like the TAVEL riser bars. That’s what we want
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Anyone got the frame yet? Curious about the ride feel. So basically this frame is about LCR018 with wider tire clearance? Can someone share the riding feel of LCR018?
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The ride feel of my LRC18-D is fine, but again, I don't have much to compare it to other than a steel Reynolds 853 Kona Roadhouse.i have 35mm tires at 3.5 to 4 bar. I can't tell you how it climbs, as I live in the flattest part of the Netherlands.
You could check the LCR18-D thread for more ride feel reviews: https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,5970.0.html
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I just asked for an update. They updated the chainstay, so it will take another month.
They say my size M with raw finish will be ready at the end of September for the custom paint.
Did you ask what the chainstay update was? Hopefully to make bigger clearance - so one maybe can fit 2.1" tires?
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Got this info about my frame few days ago
Hi Arthur,
all of the new frames are Z3 qulity, no worry it,
LCG072 size L raw finished in end of Sep or OCT, and add the paint time about 25-35 days, so will be end of Oct or later,
The production time for the new product will be longer.
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I also have a size L on order, but paired it with a HBR20 handle bar. The bar 380/100 is produced end of the year or maybe later. So I expect my frame to arrive somewhere in march.
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I also have a size L on order, but paired it with a HBR20 handle bar. The bar 380/100 is produced end of the year or maybe later. So I expect my frame to arrive somewhere in march.
Ah good to know when those bars are being produced, I'm thinking of getting the HBR20 riser bars as well for the LCG-072 as I'll be doing 90% road and the rest as lighter gravel. Do you know when the other sizes might be produced or only that specific one?
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I think Wendy said that by januari/ februari 2027 all sizes should be available.
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Do you think Seka's seatpost would fit the LC72 ? I have a trust issue with the hole under the saddle.
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Do you think Seka's seatpost would fit the LC72 ? I have a trust issue with the hole under the saddle.
It would be interesting to know if the seka post would fit (because I personally think it looks better and has proper saddle rail clamp system) but what do you mistrust about the hole?
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It would be interesting to know if the seka post would fit (because I personally think it looks better and has proper saddle rail clamp system) but what do you mistrust about the hole?
I think I saw 2-3 people having issues with the same seatpost on the LC18, that's I want to find an alternative for the seatpost.
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I am mainly disappointed about the max tire rear clearance with 2x being 45mm. Seems like a step backwards. Their older gravel frameset LCG071 fit 50 with a front derailleur.
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I am mainly disappointed about the max tire rear clearance with 2x being 45mm. Seems like a step backwards. Their older gravel frameset LCG071 fit 50 with a front derailleur.
Agreed but I do think that email response was on the very conservative side. Looking forward to see what can fit in the real world
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Agreed but I do think that email response was on the very conservative side. Looking forward to see what can fit in the real world
I wasn't super worried about it until I started developing an initial plan of grabbing the Elite Wheels Aero+ gravel wheels with 32mm internal rim width. I plan on running a 2x Ultegra group and wanted to go for 45mm tires (maybe the Schwalbe G-One RS Pros) but now worried about the potential increased width with the large internal rim width. I haven't ordered yet as I am waiting for a full bike fit, so I guess waiting benefits me a bit so that others can get their frames built up.
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I am mainly disappointed about the max tire rear clearance with 2x being 45mm. Seems like a step backwards. Their older gravel frameset LCG071 fit 50 with a front derailleur.
I ordered one early with the full intent of running 48.5mm WAM with a 2x. I will let you know how it works out because they seemed to be on the cautious side with their 45 claim so I have good hopes still. Also worth noting the 105 di2 may be bulkier but is apparently more outwards than latest r8100/r9200 FDs
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You can always install a GRX FD, which will give way more space than latest UL/DA.
Also all the 11 speed FDs give more space than 12 speed.
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Also worth noting the 105 di2 may be bulkier but is apparently more outwards than latest r8100/r9200 FDs
Depending on frames, that can be rather critical. Is that established, that 105 FD gives you more clearance than Ultegra? (in 12s)