Author Topic: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort  (Read 47862 times)

Eneen

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #120 on: November 12, 2023, 07:55:40 AM »
Is Goldix M180 new hub? It's about 40g heavier for a set than M240, but comes with 52T ratchet in contrary to M240 that comes with 36T. And looks like there are some parts for 180 series available too.

@Aliexpress Test Pilot what goldix hubs do you own?
« Last Edit: November 12, 2023, 11:10:37 AM by Eneen »

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #121 on: November 12, 2023, 12:08:35 PM »
Is Goldix M180 new hub? It's about 40g heavier for a set than M240, but comes with 52T ratchet in contrary to M240 that comes with 36T. And looks like there are some parts for 180 series available too.

Yes, as far as I know they are new. I think the weight is very good for the price. The R180 and M180 are the same for the most part.

With the sale they are at a reasonable price again. They have been about 95 USD (EU tax incl) before sale.

Eneen

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #122 on: November 12, 2023, 01:44:17 PM »
I've found this video (google translation needed):
He talks about almost all models, but doesn't recommend both 240 and 180 due to ratchet failures and only 370 and 310 are options to go or 240 with large outer spline, not threaded. 370 and 310 are also compatible with DT ratchets. Lighter 310 model uses aluminium ratchet ring and he says this ring tends to wear, it doesn't in DT hubs. In 370 there's no labyrinth driver body sealing, so you maybe need driver from 240 or 310. I'm not sure I will go with GDX, as I'm building wheels for racing...
« Last Edit: November 12, 2023, 02:27:58 PM by Eneen »

kubackje

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #123 on: November 12, 2023, 08:28:07 PM »
I've found this video (google translation needed):
He talks about almost all models, but doesn't recommend both 240 and 180 due to ratchet failures and only 370 and 310 are options to go or 240 with large outer spline, not threaded. 370 and 310 are also compatible with DT ratchets. Lighter 310 model uses aluminium ratchet ring and he says this ring tends to wear, it doesn't in DT hubs. In 370 there's no labyrinth driver body sealing, so you maybe need driver from 240 or 310. I'm not sure I will go with GDX, as I'm building wheels for racing...

Just order hubs from elite wheels. R12 is the model as far as I remember. People use them with elite wheels and all are happy

Eneen

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #124 on: November 13, 2023, 03:07:38 AM »
Thx!
Looks like this is yuan M14 hub. Here ale links, please take a look:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001960343687.html
https://www.yuananbike.com/product/yar-m14-mtb-hub-ratchet-system-center-lock-boost-axle-hub
Goldix is very similar but uses bit different driver body:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003474664645.html
Not sure it it's the same supplier or not for goldix 310, but 310 has driver without labyrinth sealing flange that makes it prone to dirt.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2023, 07:57:42 AM by Eneen »

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #125 on: November 13, 2023, 06:29:35 AM »
Thx!
Looks like this is yuan M14 hub. Here ale links, please take a look:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001960343687.html
https://www.yuananbike.com/product/yar-m14-mtb-hub-ratchet-system-center-lock-boost-axle-hub
Goldix is very similar but uses bit different driver body:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001960343687.html
Not sure it it's the same supplier or not for goldix 310, but 310 has driver without labyrinth sealing flange that makes it prone to dirt.

Your last link is the same as the first one

Eneen

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #126 on: November 13, 2023, 07:58:17 AM »
Sorry, right, here's correct one (fixed also original post)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003474664645.html

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #127 on: November 13, 2023, 08:02:12 AM »
Yeah, those hubs look identical.

Eneen

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #128 on: November 13, 2023, 08:25:56 AM »
Except driver body, 310, 370 and 180 I think use driver with flat surface. To get "proper" driver you need to buy driver from 240.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2023, 08:28:46 AM by Eneen »

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #129 on: November 13, 2023, 08:28:50 AM »
Except driver body, 310, 370 and 180 I think use driver with flat surface, to get "proper" driver you need to buy 310 or 370 + driver from 240.

I have the R180 on my MTB. I have done about 200km with it incl a very muddy ride (ruined the BB bearings). I will take the freehub apart to check the state of it in a couple of days.

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #130 on: November 13, 2023, 08:50:37 AM »
I just saw the R180 set for 96 USD tax incl.

swatracing

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #131 on: November 13, 2023, 11:23:26 AM »
What are the lightest boost hubset that we can order from Aliexpress - is there something under 300g for both?

I am motivated to test something lightweight from Ali :-)

Eneen

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #132 on: November 13, 2023, 11:56:04 AM »
Hold my beer ;)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004396722331.html <- this is older 240 with Chinese ratchet design, not exp
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006156408222.html <- this is very light, but the driver body almost certainly lacks sealing flange, so you need to buy driver from 240
« Last Edit: November 13, 2023, 11:58:00 AM by Eneen »

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #133 on: November 14, 2023, 05:21:38 AM »
Hold my beer ;)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006156408222.html <- this is very light, but the driver body almost certainly lacks sealing flange, so you need to buy driver from 240

There does seem to be a seal in this pic:

 

Eneen

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #134 on: November 14, 2023, 09:08:27 AM »
I was talking about extra flange on the driver, it's visible on the video I've linked above, 14:47.
BUT haven't noticed that this hub hides driver deeper inside body, not sure now how sealing works there.
I think I'll go with M350, simple j-bend model after all...