Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 249387 times)

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1110 on: May 25, 2025, 02:30:42 PM »
First race on the bike today.

https://www.strava.com/activities/14588664291/overview

went very well, the bike did great! Cant really say a bad word about it.


Well done good result
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

WadaWada

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1111 on: May 26, 2025, 02:06:54 AM »
Well if it helps for my frame last week 54cm
Pictured is my
Genuine SL8 fork 375grams uncut.
Tan Tan uncut was 399grams and cut was 370grams

I might be a noob, how do I order from Tan Tan, can you point me in the right direction please

planet_sammy

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1112 on: May 26, 2025, 02:27:49 AM »

Well done good result

Oh my God, when I see results like this, I just want to go to the garage and cut my bike in two, I'm a lead duck... ;)

Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1113 on: May 26, 2025, 02:45:36 AM »
Also some picture of the build and yes I have decal I know this will divide opinion with your guys.
Getting some hanging scale delivered tomorrow hopefully so will do a weigh in so far.

65R/55F wheels?

Nice bike, congrats!


PS: I don't like the purple stickers.  ;)

Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1114 on: May 26, 2025, 02:48:09 AM »
I finally got the seat post from TanTan. It took around 14 days to arrive, and the seat post is raw carbon with a glossy clear coat. They did say if I'm okay with it, they had it already produced, I'd say. Otherwise, by the looks of it, I would still be waiting because of the painting bottleneck. Doesn't look that bad, but I'll order a black matte one from them, and when it arrives, it arrives.

My opinion: matte is better  ;)

Cnasta

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1115 on: May 26, 2025, 04:02:34 AM »
First race on the bike today.

https://www.strava.com/activities/14588664291/overview

went very well, the bike did great! Cant really say a bad word about it.

Complimenti!

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1116 on: May 26, 2025, 05:01:12 AM »
65R/55F wheels?

Nice bike, congrats!


PS: I don't like the purple stickers.  ;)

Thanks
The wheels  are 65Rear and 60Front.
Well purple not everyone’s cup of tea obviously but I like the fact I can change them.
What colour would you go with?
Maybe I wil order black matt
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

Sander2177

SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1118 on: May 26, 2025, 05:28:19 AM »
Thanks
The wheels  are 65Rear and 60Front.
Well purple not everyone’s cup of tea obviously but I like the fact I can change them.
What colour would you go with?
Maybe I wil order black matt
Actually, I really like purple as a color....think that I was undecided about choosing it for the frame.

I don't like the combination of purple stickers with the frame....if I had to choose, I would probably go for an iridescent or chameleon color that fades into blue or green, but also gold or bronze/copper....certainly not matte black.

However, instead of applying only the Specialized front logo, I would evaluate the choice of a different logo of your liking, rather that of Seraph, or of your own invention (and I would not put any writing on the handlebars)....for my frame (no X68) I had a small sticker made with a custom logo and writing to apply to the upper part of the horizontal tube (in addition to those of the manufacturer, but with a custom font). ;)


Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1119 on: May 26, 2025, 06:15:21 AM »
Actually, I really like purple as a color....think that I was undecided about choosing it for the frame.

I don't like the combination of purple stickers with the frame....if I had to choose, I would probably go for an iridescent or chameleon color that fades into blue or green, but also gold or bronze/copper....certainly not matte black.

However, instead of applying only the Specialized front logo, I would evaluate the choice of a different logo of your liking, rather that of Seraph, or of your own invention (and I would not put any writing on the handlebars)....for my frame (no X68) I had a small sticker made with a custom logo and writing to apply to the upper part of the horizontal tube (in addition to those of the manufacturer, but with a custom font). ;)

The photo show the purple as a lot lightener than it actually is.
And I have a just applied  the manufacturer decal to the down tube.
I’m not 100% on the purple as I expected the frame to be a lot darker more black but as it’s UD Raw it can appear grey so I may even apply a matt grey decal but I will change them.
Not a fan of iridescent logos myself and I have gold chrome on my SL8.
Black was an option as I wanted a more stealthy look for the bike and as the purple is dark it does not stick out.

SpeedyDecal are also doing a graffiti style Decal this is actually similar to custom bike painters Probike Design they have been painting on customer bikes

https://speedydecal.com/index.php?id_product=3507&rewrite=s-works-scritte-in-stile-graffiti-comics-fumetto-kit-adesivi-telaio&controller=product&locale=en

https://www.instagram.com/probikedesign?igsh=MWNtOTViOGpwMzhmbw==


« Last Edit: May 26, 2025, 06:26:23 AM by Sander2177 »
SL8 Custom Green Over Naked Carbon 54CM 6.11KGS RhinosWorkShop Build (5.9kgs Est with upgrades on way)

X68 UD Gloss Bare Carbon 54cm 6.45kgs

IG @sanderson7721

milkom

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1120 on: May 27, 2025, 04:34:10 AM »
I’ve been a silent observer on various forums discussing different frame options, and eventually decided on the TT-X68. Unfortunately, I now regret that choice—here’s why.
I placed my order on March 13th, selecting the matte black frame with a glossy black Seraph logo. I was quoted a lead time of 15–20 days. Communication was handled via WhatsApp with Rose.
Aware of potential production delays from others’ experiences, I reached out on April 9th and was told to wait another 7–10 days due to a backlog. I followed up again on April 23rd, only to discover—after several unread messages and eventually emailing Tantan—that Rose had changed her number. I reconnected with her on April 30th and was informed my frame would ship on May 6th, after the Labor Day holiday.
Throughout the process, I remained polite and patient, knowing delays can happen and because I wasn’t in urgent need—I have other bikes to ride. However, on May 6th I received no response. On May 8th, Rose finally replied, saying the frame was ready and she’d send pictures for my review. That’s when I was told the 100/400 handlebar size I initially ordered wasn’t reserved for me. I agreed to wait another week for it to be produced.
Upon reviewing the frame photos and video, I noticed a defect: the middle line of the letter "E" in the logo was missing. I raised this with Rose immediately. On May 10th, she responded that the package had already shipped and claimed the missing line was just hidden under a sticker film that I could peel off. The package arrived on May 23rd—71 days after my order, far from the promised 15–20 days.
Unfortunately, there was no film to remove. Instead, I scratched the paint trying to find it, leaving the logo looking like "SCRAP(H)." Rose’s solution was to send me a new logo to stick on, but that’s not viable—the original logo sticker is embedded deeper in the frame and paint and varnish layers around the logo are rising around the logo. I’m not willing to experiment with DIY fixes on a brand-new frame.
Her latest offer is a $30 refund and a replacement logo, or I can return the frame at my own cost—something I won’t accept. She also mentioned they didn’t charge me for the logo in the first place, which I find irrelevant. I’ve proposed two fair solutions: either they cover the cost of local repainting or handle return shipping.
We’ll see how the conversation continues tomorrow when she’s online again.

Sergey Fly

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1121 on: May 27, 2025, 04:53:06 AM »
Personally, I don't see any need for "correctness of letters". What's the point of your meticulousness? This is some kind of nonsense.... Personally, I would be happy with individuality!!!

Usain

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1122 on: May 27, 2025, 04:58:29 AM »
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Serge_K

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1123 on: May 27, 2025, 05:05:15 AM »
I’ve been a silent observer on various forums discussing different frame options, and eventually decided on the TT-X68. Unfortunately, I now regret that choice—here’s why.
I placed my order on March 13th, selecting the matte black frame with a glossy black Seraph logo. I was quoted a lead time of 15–20 days. Communication was handled via WhatsApp with Rose.
Aware of potential production delays from others’ experiences, I reached out on April 9th and was told to wait another 7–10 days due to a backlog. I followed up again on April 23rd, only to discover—after several unread messages and eventually emailing Tantan—that Rose had changed her number. I reconnected with her on April 30th and was informed my frame would ship on May 6th, after the Labor Day holiday.
Throughout the process, I remained polite and patient, knowing delays can happen and because I wasn’t in urgent need—I have other bikes to ride. However, on May 6th I received no response. On May 8th, Rose finally replied, saying the frame was ready and she’d send pictures for my review. That’s when I was told the 100/400 handlebar size I initially ordered wasn’t reserved for me. I agreed to wait another week for it to be produced.
Upon reviewing the frame photos and video, I noticed a defect: the middle line of the letter "E" in the logo was missing. I raised this with Rose immediately. On May 10th, she responded that the package had already shipped and claimed the missing line was just hidden under a sticker film that I could peel off. The package arrived on May 23rd—71 days after my order, far from the promised 15–20 days.
Unfortunately, there was no film to remove. Instead, I scratched the paint trying to find it, leaving the logo looking like "SCRAP(H)." Rose’s solution was to send me a new logo to stick on, but that’s not viable—the original logo sticker is embedded deeper in the frame and paint and varnish layers around the logo are rising around the logo. I’m not willing to experiment with DIY fixes on a brand-new frame.
Her latest offer is a $30 refund and a replacement logo, or I can return the frame at my own cost—something I won’t accept. She also mentioned they didn’t charge me for the logo in the first place, which I find irrelevant. I’ve proposed two fair solutions: either they cover the cost of local repainting or handle return shipping.
We’ll see how the conversation continues tomorrow when she’s online again.


It is casually hilarious they would fuck up their own logo. Which maybe makes more sense if we believe those saying that tantan outsources the production (and painting?) of this model.
I would have never ordered this frame with a seraph logo in the 1st place, so i'm not sure what i'd do. I'm pretty sure they wont care about you, because they are clearly overwhelmed by demand (money talks), and they've proven on this thread over and over that they have no issues over promising and under delivering (it's human nature to treat your customer like shit if people are fighting to be your customer). In their mind, you probably have no leverage, and they also probably feel that you are complaining about something trivial in the 1st place. The "in their mind" here is important.
The logo seems important to you. I'd probably ask for several logos from them in vinyl format and apply over the entire existing logo.

For others reading this, i order my frames black matte or gloss, and i then have the option to get my own vinyl decals cut locally. I find it simpler, fewer things that can go wrong, fewer chances for delays, disappointment with paint jobs, overspray requiring facing, creating rub, and so on. And i can change the logo every week if i want to. My logos havent moved and the frame has over 12,000km.


Personally, I don't see any need for "correctness of letters". What's the point of your meticulousness? This is some kind of nonsense.... Personally, I would be happy with individuality!!!

I would think this is trolling, but looking at his other messages, i dont think it is. So, no comment on that.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

Avalius

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #1124 on: May 27, 2025, 05:16:44 AM »

It is casually hilarious they would fuck up their own logo. Which maybe makes more sense if we believe those saying that tantan outsources the production (and painting?) of this model.
I would have never ordered this frame with a seraph logo in the 1st place, so i'm not sure what i'd do. I'm pretty sure they wont care about you, because they are clearly overwhelmed by demand (money talks), and they've proven on this thread over and over that they have no issues over promising and under delivering (it's human nature to treat your customer like shit if people are fighting to be your customer). In their mind, you probably have no leverage, and they also probably feel that you are complaining about something trivial in the 1st place. The "in their mind" here is important.



TanTan is just reselling this frame, this is 100% the same frame being available in the counterfeit market with famous decals.
I've seen both frame irl and no difference.
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